Crows on Cairns

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Crows on Cairns

2020-02-22T00:41:22+00:00October 14th, 2012|Birds, Blog|6 Comments

A group of young American Crows or Northwestern Crows (or American-Northwestern hybrid crows) foraged around these cairns along Seattle’s waterfront … like sentries in their own Norman towers.

Crows Perched on Cairns

I don’t know if I’m looking at American or Northwestern Crows when I photograph these corvids in Seattle. The distinction for me — and apparently many others — is a bit hazy.

Corey at 10,000 Birds discusses this conundrum in his piece, Crows in the Pacific Northwest: Northwestern, American or Something In Between. He writes:

The rule of thumb seems to be that in Washington State, until you get out to the Olympic Peninsula you can’t be sure that the birds you are seeing aren’t small American Crows or a hybrid. But even on the Olympic Peninsula American Crows are possible, though Northwestern Crows are more likely.

From the comments at that post, I found my way to this piece at Pacific NW Birder: The Bird That Shouldn’t Be. There, Greg Gilson writes:

… it is apparently only range that separates American Crows and Northwestern Crows. If you are in SE Alaska or the coastal slope of British Columbia and Queen Charlotte and Vancouver Islands, the crows are Northwestern. Inland in British Columbia and the rest of the West, including Oregon and California, they are American Crows. If you are in Puget Sound or on the Olympic Peninsula of Washington, well, then, I guess you can call them whatever you want.

John Marzluff, University of Washington professor and crow researcher, has this to say on the matter in his book In the Company of Crows and Ravens:

These purported differences are also not striking to us. We catch crows together that vary from 10 to 15 ounces … the range of both ‘species.’ We hear nasal and pure throaty calls from a single group of crows — sometimes even in rapid succession from the same individual crow. We have noticed separation of beach and inland crows, but these lines are continually blurred by human settlement and recreation in coastal areas.. … Therefore, our feeling is that although there may once have been a Northwestern Crow that was genetically distinct from the American Crow, that bird no longer exists.

You may recall when the artist Prince, in a record label dispute, changed his name to a symbol, sometimes referred to at that time as “male symbol/female symbol”:

The vague nature of the symbol and its interpretation led to the new moniker, “The artist formerly known as Prince.”

Prince also wrote the lyric, “I got a brand new dance and it’s called The Bird.” And — as a long-time vegetarian/vegan — Prince doesn’t eat anything that “has parents,” which would probably please all birds.

So, using utterly flawed, trickle-down reasoning, from now on I’ll be going with my own ID for these corvids. They’ll be: “The crows formerly known as — or possibly not — Northwestern Crows.”

Now, they just need a symbol.


  1. Mia McPherson October 15, 2012 at 6:50 am - Reply

    I adore Corvids so I love this post Ingrid!

    • ingrid October 15, 2012 at 5:18 pm - Reply

      Thanks, Mia. Most of the crows in this large group were youngsters … some of whom were probably raised in the crow nests we’ve seen in this area. There is also a granary with corrugated metal roof under which Starlings build their nests. So, this park is full of crow and Starling teenagers in what is a pretty idyllic environment for them, at least right now, while the berry bushes still retain some of their fruit and low tides present lots of shellfish foraging.

  2. Ron Dudley October 26, 2012 at 5:05 am - Reply

    A fun post to read, Ingrid. You write so well. I loved the way you integrated Prince into your narrative.

    The difficulties in distinguishing between these two crows would be frustrating for me. I think I’d be tempted to accept Marzluff’s opinion that the Northwestern Crow no longer exists and just call them all American Crows – simply as a matter of expediency…

    • ingrid October 28, 2012 at 7:17 pm - Reply

      Ron, that’s so very kind of you. My brain makes nonsensical associations which is probably what disqualifies me from anything but a creative profession. But, Prince did seem relevant (hehe). And yes, I think American Crows is probably the safest bet, given all of the ambiguity.

  3. Mark October 28, 2012 at 4:41 am - Reply

    Great post Ingrid. Whatever type of crows these are, I certainly love the montage you put together here.

    • ingrid October 28, 2012 at 7:19 pm - Reply

      Mark, thank you very much. I was hoping the crows would stay just a bit longer … so I could vary the cairns and the backgrounds. There was literally a field of cairns with Elliott Bay as a backdrop. But, the young crows became disinterested after a while and flew off to forage through some leftover hay from a park festival.

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